Vol. 6, No. 2 - June 2010 Prepared by Joseph F. Buchanan 7472 Silver Circle West Jordan, UT 84084 (801) 566-1083 joseph.buchananutah.edu

Anderson/Jacobson in new.familysearch

This issue focuses on how to make sense of the family ancestry that appears in the new FamilySearch system.

I assume some of you have taken a look and possibly have had some questions. I have quite a bit to explain concerning what I have learned and what we all need to know about our information that is shown. So here goes...
Go to https://new.familysearch.org

If you have not ever been in the system, you need to create a new login and password. You do this by clicking on "Register for the new FamilySearch." Be sure to choose the LDS option. Fill out the form there and set up a login and password. You will need your church membership number and your birthdate. These systems are eventually going to be synchronized so that the same login and password works for all LDS websites (e.g. ward, mission application, etc.).

Log in and see your personal page.
Notice that there is a place called, "Sign in to Help Someone Else." This is where you can enter in as a family member or friend. Normally, you will not see any living people names in your area, except for your spouse and children - not even your children's spouses, so to help anyone else who does not share your ancestry, you will need to sign in as that person. You will need their membership number and their birthdate as well (if you wish to do this).

Click on "See Me and My Ancestors."

This is where the fun begins. You can go anywhere in the system here and see generations and families. There are a number of links, buttons, etc., where you can see things, add information and even submit names for temple work.

This, however, is also where a lot of confusion can come. This system contains a composite of many different kinds of records that the church has, all put together in one. The problem, is that is some areas, particularly in Scandinavia, there are many similar names, so the system brings a lot together that should not be brought together. They are always marked with symbols that indicate additional spouses, parents, etc. There are also cases where many extra people are added to families who do not belong.

The options you have for these extraneous, erroneous people are to dispute them, or the just select the one you want to use (mark as the one you always want to see), but there is no option for deleting them, even when they are so obviously incorrect. Hans Jacobson is listed with the correct wife, but they are listed with five additional children, all of which are listed as being born many years before he was born. When I look at the family, I cannot remove those names, only dispute their validity. In theory, you can contact the person who placed the records in the first place, and have them (if they agree with you) remove them from the family. In all cases, the "owner" us either the LDS church, or an unknown person, usually from the ancestral file. The system seems to place these people in families when there are similar names, because usually the details are very minimal (e.g. no exact birth date, and little else).

When there are multiple sets of parents listed for someone, for example. Anders Peter Anderson, I can mark the correct parents as the ones I wish to view, but it does not affect anyone else in our family. Therefore, I am going to work through all of the genealogy of the family and note these incorrect family members and indicate to you all how to set the correct people so you can see the correct ancestry as you go into the system.

The following are directions for what you do to make these corrections in your own new.familysearch.org directory. After that, and in future notices, I will show which ones you need to fix for your view.

1. Go into the Family Pedigree with Details view (possibly the default for you as you start - see "Change View" at the top left).

Click on the asterisk that appears to the left of the parents' names.

2. The following screen shows the parents listed for that person.

Choose the correct set of parents and click on "Always show the selected parents." then click Continue.

From now on those will be the correct parents for our family.

You probably need to do these in order, or else it may not be possible to easily find the correct people as you go up the pedigree chart. I hope to give them to you in proper order.

NOTE: before you start working on temple ordinances for those that show us as needing them, I have temple ordinance dates on pretty much everyone in the ancestry. It will take me a while, but I hope to get these people matched up with some other duplicates where the temple work has been done. Don't get too anxious yet. This is not where the work needs to be done, generally.

Here is the first batch of fixes, with detailed information on each set of parents.

1. Find Inger Sorensen. She is the mother of Maren Hansen, Eddie Mathias Jacobson's paternal grandmother.
The parents of Inger Sorensen (chosen parents marked with X) - Always show the selected parents.

	Soren (Ravn) Pedersen 	1738	of Synge, Soro, Den.
  	Malene Mogensdr 	about 1735	of Lynge, Soro, Den.
X	Soren Simonsen 	about 1749	Maalov, Cpnhgn, Denmark
  	Anna Hansen 	about 1753	Maalov, Cpnhgn, Denmark

	Peder Christian Andersen 	23 August 1819	Blokhus, Hune, Hjorring, Denmark
  	Caroline (Karen) Lund (Nielsen) 	7 December 1813	Saltum, Hjorring, Denmark
X	Jens Andersen 	7 January 1822	Orslev, Kragerup, Holbaek, Denmark
  	Ane Pedersen Andersen (Jorgensen) 	18 March 1824	Sonderup, Aarslev, Denmark
	Peder Christian Andersen 	23 August 1819	Blokhus, Hune, Hjorring, Denmark
  	Ane Pedersen Andersen (Jorgensen) 	18 March 1824	Sonderup, Aarslev, Denmark

X	Anders Larsen  	1767	Sonderup,Soro,Denmark
  	Sidse MARIE Knudsen 	1789	Tuse,Holbaek,Denmark
	Anders Larsen 	1767	Sonderup,Soro,Denmark
  	Maren Knudsen Larsen 	 	 
	Anders Larsen 	about 1724	of Orslev, Soro, Denmark
  	Anne Pedersen 	1720	Orslev, Holbaek, Denmark

X	Peder Jorgensen 	23 March 1794	Sonderup, (Aarslev), Soro, Denmark
  	Kirsten Hansen 	20 January 1799	Olsomagle, Copenhagen, Denmark
	Peder MADSEN 	about 1642	Lumbsaas, Holbaek, Den.
  	Kirsten Hansen 	about 1684	Isterod, Frederiksborg, Denmark
	Peder Jensen 	29 March 1767	Asminderod, Frederiksborg, Denmark
  	Karen Marie Hansen 	1766	Asminderod, Parrish, Fredericksborg, Denmark

	Lars Andersen  	4 March 1737	Nordrup, Soro, Dnmrk
  	Anna Henrichsdatter 	about 1739	of Sonderup, Soro, Den.
X	Lars Andersen 	4 March 1737	Nordrup, Soro, Dnmrk
  	Inger Christensen 	about 1745	 
	Lars Mortensen 	 	 
  	Sidse Hansen Mortensen

6. Find Sidse Marie Knudsen, mother of Jens Andersen (person 3).
The parents of Sidse Marie Knudsen are probably pointing correctly, but to be sure, here is the choice:

X	Knud Ibsen  	about 1736	Tudse, Holbaek, Denmark
  	Inger Larsdatter 	about 1758	of Hagested, Hlbk, Dnmr
	Knud Ibsen 	about 1736	Tudse, Holbaek, Denmark
  	Inger Larsen

	Anders Jensen  	about 1697	of Tygelse, Sorterup, Soro, Denmark
  	Mette Hansen 	about 1704	OF Slagstrup,STMkkls,Soro,Dnmr
	Anders Jensen 	about 1699	of Sonderup, Soro, Den.
  	Lisbeth 	1718	 
	Anders Jensen 	about 1697	of Tygelse, Sorterup, Soro, Denmark
  	Lisbeth 	1718	 
X	Anders Jensen 	about 1699	of Sonderup, Soro, Den.
  	Lisbeth 	about 1703	of Sonderup, Soro, Den.
	Anders Jensen 	1699	 
  	Lisbeth 	1718	 
	Anders Jensen 	about 1697	of Tygelse, Sorterup, Soro, Denmark
  	Lisbeth 	about 1703	of Sonderup, Soro, Den.
	Jensen Anders 	 	 
  	Lisbeth 	 	 
	anders jensen 	 	 
  	lisbeth 	 	 

X	Borge Borgensen 	about 1680	of Sorterup, Soro, Den.
  	Inger 	about 1683	of Sorterup, Soro, Den.
	Byrge Byrgesen 	 	 
  	[Unknown]

X	Jorgen Christensen 	25 March 1736	Aarslev,,, Denmark
  	Mette Pedersen 	about 1768	Sonderup, Soro, Denmark
	Jorgen Jensen Sudere 	 	 
  	Maren Hansdr

X	Hans Jensen  	11 March 1764	Hejninge, Soro, Denmark
  	Ane Marie Andersdatter 	about 1772	Hansted, Skanderborg, Den.
	Hans Larsen 	 	 
  	Karen Jensdr

	Christen Hansen 	about 1740	Aarslev, Sonderup, Denmark
  	Karen Olsen 	about 1741	Aarslev, Sonderup, Denmark
	Christen Pedersen 	 	 
  	Inger Maria Jorgensdatter 	 	 
X	Christensen Hansen 	1710	Arslev,, Denmark
  	Karen Olsen 	1714	, Arslev, Denmark

	 Peder Madsen  	1709	of Aarslev, Sonderup, Soro, Dnmr
  	Anna Christensen 	1740	Sonderup, Soro, Denmark
X	Peder Madsen 	1730	Aarslev, Sonderup, Soro, Denmark
  	Anna Christensen 	1740	Sonderup, Soro, Denmark
	Peder Madsen 	1730	Aarslev, Sonderup, Soro, Denmark
  	Anna Christensen 	1 November 1738	Lindrup,, Denmark
	Peter Madsen 	1709	Soro, Denmark
  	Anna Christensen 	1740	Sonderup, Soro, Denmark
	Peder Madsen 	 	 
  	[Unknown] 	 	 
	Peder Madsen 	 	 
  	[Unknown] 	 

	Jens Hansen 	25 November 1725	Hejninge, Soro, Denmark
  	Mrs. Hansen 	about 1742	Hejninge, Soro., Den.
X	Jens Jensen 	about 1721	of Leelti, Bloustrod, Frederiksborg, Den.
  	Ane Poulsdatter 	about 1727	Huninge,,, Denmark
	[Unknown] 	 	 
  	[Unknown Name] 	 

14. Find Ane Marie Andersen, mother of Kirsten Hansen (#10 above). There has been a lot of research done on her line and I will work on making sure that is what the family sees on the new FamilySearch.
The parents of Ane Marie Andersen

	Anders Jensen 	1751	Tolstrup, Skanderborg, Denmark
  	Edel Andersen 	1751	Raadved, Skndrb,, Denmark
X	And Pind 	about 1750	of Ottestrup, Soro, Dnmr
  	Maren hansdatter 	1746	,, Prob Denmark
	And Pind 	about 1750	of Ottestrup, Soro, Dnmr
  	Margretha Jensen 	about 1754	of Ottestrup, Soro, Dnmr
	Anders Sorensen 	1742	Sonder, Nedley, Denmark
  	Maren hansdatter 	1746	,, Prob Denmark
	And Pind 	about 1750	of Ottestrup, Soro, Dnmr
  	Margretha Jensen 	 	

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That is it for now. Most of these do require you and everyone in the family to find and select the correct set of parents. A few, as noted, are OK, but if at some point the order of the possible parents in the list gets changed or some other parents get added to the list, the correct one may not continue to be the one you see as you go into the pedigree chart on new FamilySearch.

So far, I have not found these kinds of problems in the non-Danish lines. I believe that the way the common names are so often used, and the patronymics confuse things as well - that is probably why this is the case. Also, our ancestry has been known for so many generations and so many family members have turned in 4-generation sheets, so the Ancestral File has many, many duplicates with slight differences. Something I can do if you are interested, is to perhaps print up a copy of what I have for direct line pedigree charts and family group records for some of you so key family members and see for themselves what the lines are supposed to look like. Also, I am sure that many of you have some collection of pedigree charts, etc., so mine may yet differ from yours. I expect that some questions may come up as to the veracity of my records and I expect to do some continuing research in microfilm records to help correct these errors. Correcting them in new.familysearch.org, however will be another task.